From: Vladimir Riabchun <vladimir.riabchun@virtuozzo.com>
To: Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@virtuozzo.com>
Cc: devel@openvz.org, Liu Kui <kui.liu@virtuozzo.com>,
azaitsev@virtuozzo.com
Subject: Re: [Devel] [PATCH hci-8.1] fs/fuse kio: start connect once per rpc_queue_work batch
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2026 16:10:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8d26a845-c074-4692-b929-f76c0d5ab264@virtuozzo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMrnHh4o4tMQxqDfizz41YHNZ+KVVvA4JK0jRdxEsvJJmkhZLQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 9/22/26 15:12, Alexey Kuznetsov wrote:
> Hello!
>
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2026 at 7:41 PM Vladimir Riabchun
> <vladimir.riabchun@virtuozzo.com> wrote:
>> These were just my thoughts if we can heal the stuck thread with
>> low effort. Seems like no - at least we need to drop these
>> assertions.
>
> I do not see any problems there. Well, except for too scary code.
> If you see, elaborate, I could miss something.
You are right, sorry. There is no BUG_ON problem.
Condition in BUG_ON(msg->rpc != (requeue ? ep: NULL)) was too hard
for me to process correctly in my head, while writing reply I decoded
it.
>
>> To prevent cases like the one below - inconsistent code state.
>
> IMHO it prevents nothing. It just minimizes patch success. :-)
> Is it correct that all these kludges are done to avoid stop machine?
Probably no. stop_machine-based livepatch I worked with does the same
stack checks and even more. But there it is 100% needed because it could
patch any place of code(not ftrace-based patching), so it is possible
to corrupt return site.
Guys just doing their best to avoid half-patches code from being run.
> Or is it still used? Sleeping states must be responsibility of patch maker,
> protections based on traces are just useless, kernel simply cannot do it
> by many reasons f.e. because of tail calls.
What's wrong with tail calls? If it is inlined, we will just patch
the parent and stack checks would be performed for parent.
>
>> Btw, I'm just curious, how iptables rule will help? It will tesspeed up pcs_rpc_connect?
>
> Yes, almost infinitely. In the last case we had 16 dead rpcs, each has
> queued 200000-300000
> requests. Each connect waits for ~2sec. So, counting: it would take
> ~75 days to finish. :-)
> With -j DROP they were processed faster than I started drgn to measure
> the rate, some
> seconds.
So, this is the cure if livepatch doesn't apply.
--
Best regards, Riabchun Vladimir
Linux Kernel Developer, Virtuozzo
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-22 14:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-21 11:28 Liu Kui
2026-09-21 12:13 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2026-09-21 20:52 ` Vladimir Riabchun
2026-09-21 21:17 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2026-09-22 9:38 ` Vladimir Riabchun
2026-09-22 10:46 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2026-09-22 11:36 ` Vladimir Riabchun
2026-09-22 13:12 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2026-09-22 14:10 ` Vladimir Riabchun [this message]
2026-09-22 15:01 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2026-09-22 15:19 ` Vladimir Riabchun
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